Can Using copyrighted music help?

Baldbiker

Baldbiker

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We have all had it happen I'm sure. We put a cool tune into our video only to have Youtube take a hissy fit over it being copyrighted within seconds of posting. However, they don't delete or censor your video any more, which is great, they just take any monetization away from you and send it to the music producer. However, if you are like me and have yet to reach 1000 subs, you cannot monetize anyway, so nothing can technically be taken from you. They can send you the nagging emails, but they still let the video roll on, with the music you chose. So, until monetization becomes a reality, why not use any music you like?
 
Baldbiker said:
We have all had it happen I'm sure. We put a cool tune into our video only to have Youtube take a hissy fit over it being copyrighted within seconds of posting. However, they don't delete or censor your video any more, which is great, they just take any monetization away from you and send it to the music producer. However, if you are like me and have yet to reach 1000 subs, you cannot monetize anyway, so nothing can technically be taken from you. They can send you the nagging emails, but they still let the video roll on, with the music you chose. So, until monetization becomes a reality, why not use any music you like?
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Some tunes are not allowed to be used in some countries, so by doing so, you are potentially limiting your audience. I have done a couple of "music motovlogs" where I used a professional artists song, I don't know if it drew any new audience in, but if you get the music right, it might appeal to some.... just remember, we all have different tastes, so a tune you love, may completely alienate some of your audience and could put them off your channel.
I rarely use music, my bike engine is music :D
I would also worry how YouTube may look at your channel if you started using copywrite music regularly, as although monetisation would go to the owner, it would mean your content was not getting them anything they can't get direct from the artist.
 
I have used some copyrighted music (which I knew beforehand, would not get muted), for some of my videos. Not really classical motovlogs, rather recaps of some events, where some montages are in order.
edit: Oh yes, I also did not rip the songs from YT, but bought them from artists site. But that was more because I really liked the tunes :)
 
Copy strikes can sink a channel -

From the Youtube Lords
"
What happens when you get a copyright strike
We all make mistakes. When you get a copyright strike, it acts as a warning. The first time you get a copyright strike, you’ll need to go through Copyright School. Copyright School helps creators understand copyright and how it’s enforced at YouTube.
Copyright strikes may affect your ability to monetize. In addition, if your live stream is removed for copyright, your access to live streaming will be restricted for 90 days.
If you get 3 copyright strikes:
  • Your account, along with any associated channels, is subject to termination.
  • All the videos uploaded to your account will be removed.
  • You can't create new channels."
https://support.google.com/youtube/...,what-happens-when-you-get-a-copyright-strike

I would not risk it.
 
Interesting question. I wouldn't risk it, but I wonder if the tactic has been used to positive effect by others?
 
HippoDrone said:
Just remember a copyright strike is very different to a copyright claim. But as @R-Rated said, it is not worth it in the long run to use that music long-term :)
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Good point @HippoDrone I was looking at it from the point of someone repeatedly violating the rules like using music without permission to the point the claims escalate. Which is what happens if your channel loses the individual claim appeal.
 
R-Rated said:
Good point @HippoDrone I was looking at it from the point of someone repeatedly violating the rules like using music without permission to the point the claims escalate. Which is what happens if your channel loses the individual claim appeal.
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When I have used other people's music, I've been eyes wide open to them getting the money, I'd never counterclaim. It does annoy me when folk claim revenue on a video that you had no intention of using other music but someone drove past with their stereo on loud so a record label gets their claws in that way. My neighbour likes her music obnoxiously loud so I often have to shit-can vids until she goes out if doing garage vids. Boils my piss she does at times.
 
HippoDrone said:
My neighbour likes her music obnoxiously loud so I often have to shit-can vids until she goes out if doing garage vids. Boils my piss she does at times.
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Sorry pal. I just had to just for you...

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A strike is when you use someone's content without their permission and they don't want it used. A claim is when you use someone's content and they are ok with it, but want the revenue.

If you get 3 copywrite strikes YouTube will permanently shut down your channel, if you get a copywrite claim, nothing happens, they just get the ad revenue.
 
Going back to original question - I thought the same. I used copyrighted music on some of my highlight videos because I thought it will make them a bit more attractive and it will bring more subscribers as the result so win win, no?. And it worked to some extend. It probably added up to 30% extra views or so (just an estimation) as it made it slightly more dynamic and interesting. But then shit happened... All of the sudden on one of those videos Youtube decided to remove the soundtrack completely - so I was left with the video with plenty of daily views but no sound. So I replaced the soundtrack with some free one from youtube library. I lost all the music synchronization of course and the motorcycle sound in the background but you know what? The video is doing about the same now... Even if it's not that good ( in theory). What's more - I have still 1 video left where this trick won't work as that video have plenty of motorcycle sound and it's quite well synchronized to current music, so I can't just replace the soundtrack now. And right now it's one of my most viewed videos so I have no income from that...

So, my conclusion is... don't do that. Use free music from youtube library or just subscribe to some paid service if you need better quality music. No other choice really as you will regret it later for sure.
 
R-Rated said:
Copy strikes can sink a channel -

From the Youtube Lords
"
What happens when you get a copyright strike
We all make mistakes. When you get a copyright strike, it acts as a warning. The first time you get a copyright strike, you’ll need to go through Copyright School. Copyright School helps creators understand copyright and how it’s enforced at YouTube.
Copyright strikes may affect your ability to monetize. In addition, if your live stream is removed for copyright, your access to live streaming will be restricted for 90 days.
If you get 3 copyright strikes:
  • Your account, along with any associated channels, is subject to termination.
  • All the videos uploaded to your account will be removed.
  • You can't create new channels."
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2814000?hl=en#zippy=,what-happens-when-you-get-a-copyright-strike

I would not risk it.
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Wow, I've never been told this by Youtube. As a matter of fact their "hissy fit" email says "it's ok you haven't done anything wrong" There is no threat to remove your account or suspend you at all. Maybe that stuff comes into play once you are monetizable.
 
To be honest, music can add nice accents and emotion to your videos, but it's very easy to overdo it, or choose the wrong music. I find the number one complaint I see in the comment section of any video is about the music. With that said, I wouldn't recommend never using it either. It's kind of like a guitar solo in a song. Put a little in here and there where it accents the song, but don't wail away from beginning to end, because then it just becomes annoying. I subscribe to an online copyright free music site which I pay a membership for. The music quality is far better, usually voice free, a great selection of tastes and far better than anything in Youtube's Library.
 
Baldbiker said:
Wow, I've never been told this by Youtube. As a matter of fact their "hissy fit" email says "it's ok you haven't done anything wrong" There is no threat to remove your account or suspend you at all. Maybe that stuff comes into play once you are monetizable.
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That isn't from a copywrite strike, that is from a copywrite claim, two very different things, and worth researching the difference.
 
My thoughts on this as I'm just starting out with a small channel
- I want creative control beign able to set tone or mood with a soundtrack that is meaningful to me. Selecting music to please a wider audience is a secondary consideration, atleast at this point
- Not time efficient to sift through free license material to find something appropriate
- If monetization leads to the copyright holder getting any revenue or exposure then that's great as its already material I'm prepared to endorse

that being said I'll probably move away from this approach when the time is right
 
My last video got blocked worldwide initially, not a copywrite strike, just blocked because of a song playing in the background at our campsite. So do bare that in mind if you do want to use popular music. I will now always avoid playing any ACDC when camping! :D
 
Music is mostly in the copyright claim realm, and is usually automated or bot detected using whatever algorithm or such. Those are fine and will not get your channel/user banned.

Copyright strike is the one that is usually filed and that video is no longer available. Those will get you in trouble if you reach the strike limit.
 
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